Just made a Napawing -NPW How to keep from tangleing?

[volleybiggs]

I just made a Napawing-NPW and have not had a good chance to take it
for a fly yet. Just wondering how it takes off. I saw a video where a
guy had it laying on its back with his back to the wind had some
weight on the kite closest to him and he pulled and it just took off.
Also do the wing and brake lines get tangled often? It sure looks like
it will get tangled.
Also can this kite be used on the water? I have a windsurfer and canoe
and thought it would be fun to take this kite on it.
Thanks

Jim

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Post by volleybiggs
I just made a Napawing-NPW and have not had a good chance to take it
for a fly yet. Just wondering how it takes off. I saw a video where a
guy had it laying on its back with his back to the wind had some
weight on the kite closest to him and he pulled and it just took off.

Yes, it's really that easy...!

Post by volleybiggs
Also do the wing and brake lines get tangled often? It sure looks like
it will get tangled.

Nope.

Post by volleybiggs
Also can this kite be used on the water?

No, if it gets wet you've had it - the cloth is too
heavy to keep the right shape.


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Post by volleybiggs
Also do the wing and brake lines get tangled often? It sure looks like
it will get tangled.

Nope.

Maybe I should say "not when flying".

The lines can tie themselves in terrible
knots if you don't pack it away right.

If you pack it without the flying lines attached
you need to pass two two of the wing/brake
lines through one of the loops on the
top edge and tie them to the other two.
This prevents tangles when it's in the bag.

Or...you can leave the flying lines attached,
if you only ever use one kite with the lines then
this can be a bit more convenient.

Wind the flying lines around the handles (in
a figure eight). When you reach the kite you
fold it and roll it up around the handles.

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Post by volleybiggs
I just made a Napawing-NPW and have not had a good chance to take it
for a fly yet. Just wondering how it takes off. I saw a video where a
guy had it laying on its back with his back to the wind had some
weight on the kite closest to him and he pulled and it just took off.

You don't even have to put weight on the trailing edge (closest to you),
unless the wind is high enough to flip the kite on the ground. If the kite
is rigged for four line flying then you can take off upside down, sideways,
the other sideways :-) and of course the regular way.

Did you have help from the internet with making your Nasawing? What model
did you make?
I have written a comprehensive Windows program for making the NPW9b model.
You can find the program and othe NPW stuff at:
http://members.shaw.ca/kiteman/

Post by volleybiggs
Also do the wing and brake lines get tangled often? It sure looks like
it will get tangled.

If you can run my NPW9b program you will see that we use a "knotless" knot
so that there isn't a knot bulk for the lines to get caught on. The only
possible hangup point is where the bridle gathering point (Q point) attaches
to the flying line. We use a small plastic cup (about 1/4" diameter) to
cover this knot so that we dont get ANY tangling.

Post by volleybiggs
Also can this kite be used on the water? I have a windsurfer and canoe
and thought it would be fun to take this kite on it.

I know of one person that has kitesurfer with an eNPW5 and a few that have
used one with a canoe/kayak. Kitesurfing can work, but the NPW is known
for not having as much lift as LEI and foil kites. It has plenty of pull
lower in the wind window though. Canoe/Kayak is okay as long as you are
heading pretty much downwind as you can't tack much without a keel. You
also need land clearance when you reach shore so that you kite doesn't end
up in the trees or bushes as you try to get out of your water vehicle.
BTW, the NPWs and water do not get along in flight - if you so much as hook
an 1/8 inch of the kite edge into the water it will fold right up and can
only be relaunch if someone gathers the kite and throws it into the air in
such a fashion as you are able to get it to fill with air before it hits the
water again. I have accomplished this.

Regards,
Tom

[volleybiggs]

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Post by kiteman
Did you have help from the internet with making your Nasawing? What model
did you make?
I have written a comprehensive Windows program for making the NPW9b model.
You can find the program and othe NPW stuff at:http://members.shaw.ca/kiteman/

I used this site for patern for my nasawing http://www.xs4all.nl/~pdj/nasaplan.htm
Been waiting for some wind to take it out. Had a summer storm come
thru yesterday. Man it had to be 15-20 mph. Was a little worried about
being struck by lightning etc so waited. When the storm passed only
had 4 or 5 mins of lighter wind but got the kite up. Was in such a
rush I did not rig it up with 4 lines. Only 2 lines. It dove hard to
the right the 3 times I got it off the ground.
I am guessing if I rig it up with 4 lines that may help. If not what
do you think may be causing it to dive and how would I fix it? Either
altering briddle or pulling on lines?

Looked on your site Tom and saw your Canadian Flag Design on the lake.
I guess you must have had that on the water. That is a very cool
looking kite. Did you sew the maple leaf on or did you paint it on?
The interesting designs I have seen on nasawings, do people sew or
airbrush it on?

Thanks

Jim

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Subject: Re: Just made a Napawing -NPW How to keep from tangleing?

Post by volleybiggs

Post by kiteman
Did you have help from the internet with making your Nasawing? What model
did you make?
I have written a comprehensive Windows program for making the NPW9b model.
http://members.shaw.ca/kiteman/

I used this site for patern for my nasawing
http://www.xs4all.nl/~pdj/nasaplan.htm
When the storm passed only
had 4 or 5 mins of lighter wind but got the kite up. Was in such a
rush I did not rig it up with 4 lines. Only 2 lines. It dove hard to
the right the 3 times I got it off the ground.
I am guessing if I rig it up with 4 lines that may help. If not what
do you think may be causing it to dive and how would I fix it? Either
altering briddle or pulling on lines?

To run the kite on 2 lines you definitely have to have your brake bridles an
optimized length vs. the power bridles. Re-rig for four lines. It is a
much, much more fun experience when you can launch, crash and launch without
walking to the kite or having an assistant help out.
If the kite is diving to the right you likely just have the right flying
line shorter than the left. Bridling error(s) could also be causing this.
See what happens after the 4 line re-rig.

BTW, it is easier to help you if I can see a video of what is happening
during flight. You can send a video up to 7MB in size directly to my email
address.

Post by volleybiggs
Looked on your site Tom and saw your Canadian Flag Design on the lake.
I guess you must have had that on the water. That is a very cool
looking kite. Did you sew the maple leaf on or did you paint it on?
The interesting designs I have seen on nasawings, do people sew or
airbrush it on?

I have used several of my NPW kites "above" the water :-) Where I live
there are some large lakes that are very shallow. I can walk out 90 - 300
meters before the water is up to my chest. I then use the kite to body
drag back into shore.

I have made an 5.5 sqm eNPW5 and a 4.0 sqm NPW9b with the Canadian Flag
design. Both are applique. If you not familiar with applique it is
sewing a separate piece of fabric onto the sail and then you have the choice
of leaving it as is, or cutting away the backing material so that the
applique can be seen from the front and back sides. I know of people that
have painted on designs as well. I have some crayola fabric pencils that
can mark fabric but it takes a lot of heat from the iron to set it....so
this technique is not for all fabrics. There is also a method to acid set
dyes into nylon material.

If you are looking to make a second NPW kite, I highly recommend the NPW9b
model. It performs much better than the eNPW5 models.

Tom

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Post by kiteman
if you so much as hook
an 1/8 inch of the kite edge into the water it will fold right up

Been there, done that.

When the wind blows from land to sea I like to
fly the kite out over the water. The usual result
is dragging a wet kite out of the water with half
a ton of sand mixed into it.


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